tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7464708.post9108797038147154900..comments2024-03-22T06:05:36.544-04:00Comments on Kids Prefer Cheese: Pro-Government Libertarians?Mungowitzhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02340064320347875601noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7464708.post-66802820694637769812014-07-14T08:33:02.583-04:002014-07-14T08:33:02.583-04:00I know this is getting into values that can't ...I know this is getting into values that can't empirically be tested, but I strongly reject the idea that the state creates our rights, and thank God this nation was not founded on the belief that it does.<br /><br />Guarantor perhaps. Indeed, that is <i>why</i> we have the state.John Covilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16791564966801146755noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7464708.post-55931709622932539522014-07-10T13:08:01.859-04:002014-07-10T13:08:01.859-04:00@Tom: "The State itself - by its very essence...@Tom: "The State itself - by its very essence - is the enemy of liberty."<br /><br />The State is the creator and guarantor of the rights you enjoy. The fact that states often act badly and destroy those rights does not change that one bit.gcallahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10065877215969589482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7464708.post-41624957108117350292014-07-09T00:38:02.625-04:002014-07-09T00:38:02.625-04:00I don't know man. I need some examples of som...I don't know man. I need some examples of something a gov't has done well. Otherwise it seems more religious to suggest that the gov't could do something well than to suggest that it can't.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7464708.post-41645881376894639952014-07-07T22:25:06.627-04:002014-07-07T22:25:06.627-04:00If the question is "Government: Yes or No?&qu...If the question is "Government: Yes or No?" then "pro-government libertarian" could make a lot of sense.<br /><br />If the question is "Government: more or less than we have now?" then "pro-government libertarian" makes little to no sense.John Covilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16791564966801146755noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7464708.post-44379251100207663072014-07-06T09:30:23.084-04:002014-07-06T09:30:23.084-04:00"Government"? It's a soft term.
A ..."Government"? It's a soft term.<br /><br />A meeting might be governed by a parlimentarian, a company by a board of directors. A person facing some social adversity could be governed by his attorney's advice and sporting event governed by referees and a sporting association's rules. None of these "governments" is an enemy of liberty. The unending enemy of liberty is The Autoritarian State (TAS), that group that arrogates to itself a right to aggress. It's a monopoly right; others doing the same thing as TAS in its claimed venue will be attacked.<br /><br />Different versions of TAS may allow for some "rights" of those it claims to rule, even including a limited right of self defense. But no TAS ever recognizes a self defense against the TAS itself; TAS rules. TAS defines its venue, usually territorial; no individual in the chosen venue can disassociate with TAS; TAS rules.<br /><br />The State itself - by its very essence - is the enemy of liberty.<br />Tomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08574355302581451838noreply@blogger.com