Saturday, June 05, 2010

In the closet, with a candlestick

5 comments:

Karl said...

or not
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/36852827/ns/us_news-environment/
gimme a yell when it makes the list, and then we can talk about how much worse it still has to get before we're in screwed territory.

Anonymous said...

@ Karl

Your article is over a month old. The spill was 9 days old at that point. Its now 46 days old. At the time of the article the spill rate was probably being lied about, but even a conservative multiplication of those numbers puts it on your list.

Karl said...

the horizon sank on April 22nd, 46 days ago. So, if it's leaking more than ~21,000 barrels per day at 7.3 barrels per ton, it's bigger than the odyssey. BP's estimate of 5k per day is almost certainly low, so yeah, we're probably on the list. If the actual rate is the highest of all the present estimates, ~14,000 tons per day, we're now at 630,000 tons, and we'll be in Gulf war spill range in another month and a half. Bad. Not Good. Screwed? No. Not unless we've been so screwed since 1991 and we're only just noticing now. Perspective is good.

Anonymous said...

@ Karl

I love it. "Oh, its only the second biggest oil spill in history, nothing to fret about".

So the spill is now easily on your list, and now is only behind one other spill. That particular spill wrecked havoc on the environment of the Persian gulf for over a decade. Do you honestly think that spill had zero impact?

The fisheries are being destroyed, the beaches are covered in tar, the wildlife is being wiped out. But hey, its maybe not as bad as this one other thing which was really bad, so whatever.

Karl said...

No. It is really bad, much worse than I thought, and I appreciate having my mistake pointed out. It's not over and it could also get worse.

But it's also important to keep in mind what happened in all these other disasters and the long term consequences. You can look at the locations of all these disasters and see how they've suffered in the years since, and when, if ever, they returned to where they were before the spill. Perspective. That's how you know when to break out the Aquaman poster.