Thursday, July 28, 2011

"Outlandishly Subsidized" Is Not the Same as Cheap

There is an old claim that cookie crumbs have no calories. Furthermore, dessert bites a woman takes off her date's/husband's plate are not fattening. That's why so often women say, "I don't want any dessert," and then will eat more than half of yours. (Plus, I *pity* the fool man who doesn't order dessert. Your woman does not want to be the sort of woman who orders dessert, so you have to do it. Just STFU and order...)

Okay, that's funny and all. But the Germans think of solar power the same way. They have these enormous, utterly irrational subsidies for solar everything, and houses all over that dark, cloudy country have hugely expensive solar panels. (Interesting, and surprisingly harsh, story in Spiegel).

But they say "it's cheap!" because the cost is subsidized by a fictional entity called, "The State." It doesn't actually exist, and the cost is being picked up taxpayers, which of course are the very people touching themselves and squealing with joy at how "cheap" the subsidized solar panels are.

Germans: if you want dessert, just order it. Don't pick off taxpayers' plates.

(nod to the Blonde)

5 comments:

John Thacker said...

Notice that even the liberal (in the libertarian sense) Free Democrats are going along with the absurd claims about how cheap it is because, hey, they're in government as a coalition partner. Got to toe that line.

chaze said...

Hmm... you just missed some side effects. In the long term (yeah i know you dont like it if you have to do something for the community) energy prices will fall just because of these subsidies. And good thing: The money goes to a large quantity of people, in spite of being sucked in by the oligopol of the energy industry. In fact, the solar panels already make energy at midday (highest consumption) cheaper than at night. The subsidies are fixed for some time, but after that, it is a win win win Situation.

chaze said...

to stay in your picture: everybody orders dessert. you pay a part of your neighbours dessert now, but next time you go for dinner, desserts will get way cheaper. :)

John Thacker said...

In the long term (yeah i know you dont like it if you have to do something for the community) energy prices will fall just because of these subsidies.

That's what they said about corn ethanol. And synfuels before that.

And good thing: The money goes to a large quantity of people, in spite of being sucked in by the oligopol of the energy industry

That's also what they claim about ethanol.

Why pick and choose specific technologies to subsidize? Why do you and others possess such arrogance that you know where scientific advances will lead?

John Thacker said...

In fact, the solar panels already make energy at midday (highest consumption) cheaper than at night.

So you're arguing that your policy encourages people to use more energy at the time of highest consumption, instead of shifting their consumption to night thanks to price signals, and that's a good thing?

Also, you're ignoring the cost of the panels. The panels take energy to produce and energy to install, which is included in those subsidies.

It's almost surely worse for the environment to waste energy in order to encourage people to consume more during the time of highest demand, rather than use prices to encourage people to conserve and shift energy use to night.

Why do you hate the environment and want to waste energy, chaze?